Seems to me Monday would be the day for housekeepers.4) Were Cocaine or LSD, or amphetamines or Ecstasy found by first responders on Sunday morning? In a previous post someone posted Back in Lancaster, residents were just learning about the murders in California -- and the local man who was being questioned for them. On the morning of Aug. 9, 1969, a housekeeper discovered five bodies scattered around the Los Angeles estate. Altobelli the owner of the property was gay and picked Garretson up hitchhiking originally. And if they had However, in a 1990s documentary about Sharon Tates death, Garretson changed his story and stated that he heard what sounded like firecrackers being thrown from Steven Parents car and thought it was a prank pulled by Parent, who had just departed. Also known as: Mr William M Garretson, Mr William Garretson . the next morning instead of a victim that night. Thank you for fulfilling this photo request. August 9, 2019 marks the 50th anniversary of the Sharon Tate murder that was inflicted by members of the Manson "Family." He probably quickly figured out no, and he left. And while this precludes them hearing the shots fired into Steve Parent, it would not preclude the screams and shots fired outside the main house for Garretson.I added 2 photos to the post to illustrate. From Area 51 to Lancaster to Palmdale to San Bernardino to 29 Palms, to Victorville to Yucca Valley. ?The guy was a "caretaker" for cripes sakes. ?The guy was a "caretaker" for cripes sakes. Nearby, a bloody towel covered the head of hairdresser Jay Sebring, her former boyfriend, who had been stabbed and shot. about sexual relations on pages 37 & 38: As It's a 2000 parole hearing for Susan Atkins, and Debra Tate read a letter that Paul wrote, because he couldn't attend. On the front door, the victims' blood was used to scrawl the words, "Death to Pigs.". LOL.Also, Rudy included in his lawsuit unpaid rent. zilch. He was running low on money when he was hired to be the caretaker for the residence that eventually became the site of the brutal murders. document.write(part3 + ''); She was only just introduced into the Spahn Ranch and Charles Manson residing in Canoga Park five miles away btw. When she refused he broke her nose and beat her up whereupon she suffered a miscarriage. Burdick, the officer questioning Garretson even notes this during the exam. The key impact of both crimes is that Conspiracy to Commit Murder and Felony Murder do not require the defendant to actually kill anyone or even be present when someone is murdered to be guilty of murder. Late teens weren't tucked up asleep in bed at 9.30pm by 1969. Learn How rich is He in this year and how He spends money? It's hard to recall in 2015 but even ten years ago when blogging about it people attacked me for mentioning that Steve liked guys. don't know.. this is just another confusing piece of the puzzlewhere does it fit? GOT TO SAY THIS a few decades later 1990's on the internet WILLIAM GARRTSON did make the news again with MORE INFORMATIONplus the new MANSON books says Garrtson picked up the phone shortly after Parent left and Garretson noted the phone line was dead. He also said he was treated well while in custody, so it's not surprising it didn't go forward, but he was clearly damaged in the legal sense and treated badly when he was identified to the press as a five-time murderer. The door was locked. "I was placed in a cell with a bunch of people and I remember thinking, 'how the hell am I still alive?' The then 19-year-old, who was living in Los Angeles and working. Heard that from the Col.Don't know if that's true.Don't know what that has to do with it.But I do think that a 19 year old guy, that just had a visit from a "friend to sell a radio" and had no knowledge of the crimes, would be in some kind of shock.Now a 19 year old that wasn't using drugs, wasn't drunk, wasn't hallucinting, would act normally.But a 19 year old guy that was drugged up, imagining all things possible, and thinking that he was next, might have gone into a mind-fall.I'm just speculating here. It is not implausible to believe that William was tweaking or still under the influence of whatever during this time and either, turned out the lights and hid in the guest house or hid out behind it, in the bushes or hillside. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DeAndre Houston-Carson 2016 Contenders Draft Auto Rookie William & Mary Tribe at the best online prices at eBay! I can imagine being so closely tied to such a horrible crime could mess up a person's head- maybe forever- but Garretson's problems seem to go further than that. Billy died in 2016. The Associated Press contributed to this article. Try again later. Resend Activation Email. was under the residual effects of some type of narcotic during the entire time Try again. It is sometimes said that truth is stranger than fiction, not least, I guess, because truth {ie, that which actually happened} often leaves many unanswered questions that in turn could all go off in a myriad of directions, while fiction is neatly tied and bundled and has easily observable limits.WG claimed some years ago that he did see some things that happened on the night in question but had no way of knowing that it wasn't house guests frollicking around.Hmmmm.Most recollections {of anyone, in any event} tend to be made without prior knowledge that one would have to recollect so it strikes me as not particularly odd that WG's recollections would be somewhat disjointed.Equinox said "I couldn't see SP just turning up round about midnight on the 8th to sell a clock radio to someone he had only met once" but I could. My understanding was that they were the house-sitters. "I was just unfortunately one of those things where he was in the wrong place at the wrong time," Varga said. There is much more to this story than we are being told. There is 1 volunteer for this cemetery. Helter Skelter was written by Curt Gentry, a CIA author of:1) May 1, 1960 Gary Powers false story 'Overflight' Lockheed U-2 faked shoot down. He was described as having both sadistic and homosexual tendencies by a probation officer. interview.I found a few paragraphs. Before Steve was super young. This comment has been removed by the author. (click for details). He died on 16 August 2016. This memorial has been copied to your clipboard. pool man, and the men working on the nursery and any other frequenters to the I understand he hitchhiked from Ohio to California. He testified that he stayed up all night, as he was going to call TIME at 0600, so he could wind and set the guesthouse clocks. document.write(''); thanks for reading all this. 2) January 23, 1968 CIA USS Pueblo listening spy ship of North Korea trespassing incident, entitled 'Second in Command'3) then the Mason Family Helter Skelter' fake story, false narrative replete with errors bookWhy would a CIA propaganda writer be involved with Charlie Manson UNLESS it was a CIA PSYOPS event, 51 years of terrorism and shelter in place mantra. Garretson respectfully chose not to purchase the clock radio, and Parent returned to his car. "Those who knew (Garretson) knew he couldn't of been capable of doing something like that.". So, she goes back to the main house. He had heard things that scared and confused him, and they were quickly over with.So even though everyone posting here would have been a tremendous hero in that situation at 19 years old, and wouldn't have minded being wrongly accused of five murders in the press and held for days, I'm not quite sure how any of that makes him a "douche". His life was a big lie. >>>Lynyrd said: Garretson is always portrayed as a cowering child but, he was actually nineteen years old.If it's indeed true, that Garretson heard noises like firecrackers heard shouting and screams followed a few minutes later and did in fact, look out from a window in the cottage to see Abigail Folger being chased by Patricia Krenwinkel AND heard Folger say she was already dead:I'd say Garretson is a coward, and somewhat un-ethical, for not (at least) reporting what he heard/saw when questioned at a minimum.I think most nineteen year old guys, would have snuck out of there a couple hours later (after things quieted), and went for help, or the police.Men fight wars at that age.Who hides the entire night, and says they've seen and heard nothing the next day?The whole thing kinda smacks of cowardess to me.>>>Lynyrd I agree.But I've read where Bill was taking way too many drugs the day before (August 7th) and had a "death sleep" until August 8th in the evening, when he went for the TV dinner and coke.I've never taken drugs, but I can imagine that it takes a hold on you.Also, I've heard it mentioned, that Parent and Garretson did a "gay trist". Then Garretson heard Folger say she was already dead, which understandably confused Garretson even more.After returning to Ohio, Garretson visited California again, to testify in the Tate-LaBianca trial. Manson Blog Proves that Tenerelli Was Not a Gypsy Joker! So this is not about gay-bashing, or even speculation for the LOLOL3) I always thought the carpet stain story was a joke.He really sued Roman for the carpet??? On the other hand, Paul Watkins claims in his book that he gave Charlie head, as well as what went down during their group sessions. HA HA. mind that you don't want to disclose?". "As far as the city was concerned, I think the reaction from a lot of people was, 'oh wow,' " Householder said. question that is bothering you and I'm not sure it's a truthful answer, or Weve updated the security on the site. Yes, it definitely looks like Bill and Altobelli were cohabiting, and within the context of the times, it would be a relationship that Bill G would want to keep quiet. Ok, I'm at 38,000 feet on the iPhone so if this is choppy and full of typos, please forgive.It would seem to me that the people least likely to hear the gunshots from the gate control mechanism would be the occupants of both the main house and the guest house because of the canyon wall that block the sound to the residence. Now, ?That's more bizarre, than Altobelli suing!Is Roman that friggin' cheap?He actually got down on his hands and knees, and tried to clean his wife's blood?The guy's a film producer.He couldn't spring for a new rug?? The sale of a used calendar clock seems absurd.Drug delivery? Bill was definitely a handsome man. var part1 = "david"; The sponsor of a memorial may add an additional. I recall Manson showed up at the guest house in March looking for former renter Terry Melcher. He is not dating anyone. William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA. Learn more about managing a memorial . Lots of people heard that. Homicide cops knew this guy without any blood or cuts couldt chase and stab all these people unless he was Speedy Gonzalez.Once they calmed him down and background checked him and found out he was John Holmes brother from Ohio they figured he was Italian tubesteak for Altobeli.Anyway by day 3 the good cop was getting rare witness survivor testimony of an even rarer ritualistic,possibly drug (MDA)related multiple murder.As far as I can tell the cops treated him with kid gloves.The cops were worried BG might be murdered by this same group if he told the press what he knew and saw.I was in Los Angeles from the Boston area from Jan-June 1969.I was 20 and couldn't believe how many hitchhikers there were.I bought a 1957 Century from my landlord not realizing the Ca.tags tranferred with the vehicle I had taken my Maine tags,plus didnt require insurance like Ca.did.I myself bummed rides.Like most witnesses to an unknown perp murder.BG was told that he didnt hear or see anything.Thats why his lawyer did all the TV interview.When I started work in the Plymouth Co DA Office I LEAA funded the first county wide Victim-Witness Prog.I personally used Induction-Hypnosis on violent crime vics & witnesses with great results in 1975-78.Defense attornies complained I was manufacturing evidence.I didnt think so;so many clients could recall to witness and document traumatic crime details.Crime scene forensics was a bit sloppy at the Tate house.BTW the Buntline 22 using Std velocity ammo MAY BE somewhat suppressed due to the 18" ? 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