"Iain Webster - Executive DirectorInterbrand, "Neil is a great person to work with on every level. I'd love to have more commercial success, because it would buy me the ability and the security to make better and more beautiful work, I think. MIJA RIEDEL: And I'm curious, when you say "spiritually, it fulfilled self-respect." He was like the only painter from an art background. And I never thought of myself as a teacher, as more of a vehicle. MIJA RIEDEL: making things happen that wouldn't happen elsewhere. But it's funny because even Huell Howser, when he came through Auburn to do one of his, AmeriCalifornia specials? NEIL WILLIAMS: Other dealers were okay to deal with. There was that pressure. And Viola would yell out of the side, "Art's about personal experience!" But her compulsion, her raw compulsion, I believe was the perception and the practice of perception of the color and the practice of wanting to paint it all over something. Because she spoke in gaps back then. So there was a. MIJA RIEDEL: Just the description of the columns as keyholes or thresholds. He was like, "You know, palace-and-cottage, it's likeMichelangelo was a palace artist; Van Gogh was a cottage artist." The idea that whatever ailed you one side, if you were to pass through there in thoughtin a way, on the other side, you would come out refreshed and rejuvenated. You're going to pace yourself or do you want to give it all at once? And he had a really interesting background himself,, being an architect historian, ceramic historian, writer, and friends with the people he knew. NEIL WILLIAMS: But I guess she had to go with it. And then certainly now working, knowing people like Sam Tubiolo more, working with his project, this Los Alamos mural project with him, it'sI mean, I'm loving that. "No, art is about art!" In other words, it was time to go; session was over. Sowhat else? NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh. Well, okay, call, "What are you doing?" MIJA RIEDEL: So, in your experience, she never drew a line and said she was done with that? It would take years to make a little jump in progress, it seemed like. NEIL WILLIAMS: Doesn't that go back to the Tao in China, that loneliness is our common denominator? NEIL WILLIAMS: She admitted she would go nuts if she was just isolated in her studio full-time, if she didn't have that contact. MIJA RIEDEL: So the grandfather had junk even before the dad had junk? NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there's always hopefully, it gives the work depth and some character, that it's not just a haphazard, it has some validity to it and it's based on pieces that haven't worked, which have been many, many, many. I have to carve away certain layers as it dries, so it holds its shape and its form, and doesn't collapse. NEIL WILLIAMS: It changed their lives, and they probably still talked about it and thought about that every time they picked up a brush. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. Uh-uh. MIJA RIEDEL: Did you ever have that kind of experience? NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh my gosh, where did it come from? Because once boredom sets in, or once you, you know, you talkyou see so many artists or crafts people who go one automatic pilot, and the work loses its' soul, and it shows. Differences? He said, "I always considered these, or conceived these as individual." 750 9th Street, NWVictor Building, Suite 2200 She was very competitivecame back in all fired up one day in the studio and made me pour about 80 candlestick images that she was going to use in her, you know, NEIL WILLIAMS: new series of jug pieces. 0000053437 00000 n
There'd be no more reason or motivation to keep working. MIJA RIEDEL: Rena talked about [a trip MR] she and Viola took back east, and sending [Viola and Patterson MR] on a train to New York together, coming up with a reason that she couldn't go so they would have a chance to chat. NEIL WILLIAMS: because she wasn't really into some of the hard personal discussions about life and death. Summary: An interview with Neil N. Williams conducted 2014 June 5-6, by Mija Riedel, for the Archives of American Art's Viola Frey Oral History Project, at William's home and studio WebThoroughbred Jockey Neil Williams NEIL WILLIAMS Australia Best Horse : BRAVE WARRIOR (Timeform Rating 124) COSSACK WARRIOR (AUS) NOTHING TO DO I mean, Betty Asher was wonderful, of course, the matriarch of west coast art, and Rena kept an eye on me and was always very generous and very helpful, especially if I needed to reach out and, "Rena, I have a few new pieces I would like to be able to get some more materials," and she would buy them and resell them. So, two and half feet tall, perhaps. Rising weight means most male jockeys have to waste around the time they end their apprenticeships and lose their appeal to trainers. The biggest of them exist on starvation diets that seem to shrivel brains, as well as bodies. ". NEIL WILLIAMS: Then I ended up more so reading more recently in the last ten years, I don't knowfascinations with otherworldly things, unexplained things, unexplained phenomenons, UFOs or undiscovered species or missing people, missing time, interesting mysteries. She was just using me as a sounding board, of course, a fresh, young eye, whatever it was. On Friday 17 July 2009, Tyrone Leonard Williams rode all four winners at the Langholm Racing Association meeting at Castleholm in Langholm, just one of many flapping tracks that the former professional jockey rode at once he'd 'retired' in 2005. R&S takes all care in the preparation of information appearing on the site, but accepts no responsibility nor warrants the accuracy of the information displayed. Victor Building NEIL WILLIAMS: I always thought they had this beautiful bittersweetness to them. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. It's just the cuts, they've gone from straight-line horizontal-vertical planes to diagonal and to curvilinear shapes. I think she had two full-time and another part-time at the same time afterwards, so, NEIL WILLIAMS: It was I was really proud because I had felt really honored to be able to work with her. Very unusual. Neil Williams was a top jockey, I remember him winning premierships in Brisbane, was the top rider there. You have to be in complete embrace with it. Maybe if you would walk me through how the work comes about. MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking of something that Rena said last week, which wasshe saidsomething that Viola said to her. So, there's a meditative, you have to beI have to be in the rightyou know, and being a big guy with club hands isI like that. NEIL WILLIAMS: So that kind of thing. NEIL WILLIAMS: Intent, is it intention, materials, technique, tradition equals content. Technically, was she firing everything in gas kilns to the same temperature as electric kilns? Neal Currey likes to say adventure is in his blood. NEIL WILLIAMS: Very good partner and a beautiful girl. The gallery washe was going to do sales and donate it towards the Shanti Center or to hospices, or to Bates' Hospices, or to the arts down there where he was. You were with her during both the Crocker retrospective in '81 and the Whitney exhibition in '84? ", Mike Etheridge - Associate Creative Director, "Neil Williams is a talented Head of Copy. We are so very grateful for the miracle of Damar Hamlins recovery.. In high school, there were ceramics classes? I thought, "Okay." NEIL WILLIAMS: And my wife connected with it. Because he moved out of L.A., NEIL WILLIAMS: because there was an earthquake and they were rude to him. NEIL WILLIAMS: two of the premier Bay Area figurative artists of the time. Toby and. But thank God it is. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I had no idea she had that sensitivity towards rendering a figure. Interesting. NEIL WILLIAMS: It's nottrying to figure out where I fit in, or how I see it fitting in, Iyou got to leave that to the dealers and the critics and the museums, and all of that. [Laughs.] His real name is Foster Heinz, but everyone calls him Tex. They were work, but it was the idea of making a column that washad a little figurative feel to it. She didn't encourage me to stop and nix it and do something else andbut very encouraging and learned a lot about keeping the work alive and interesting, NEIL WILLIAMS: and a part of which was making mistakes, NEIL WILLIAMS: accepting those mistakes, and, MIJA RIEDEL: Now, you graduated with a BFA in '81, and I can't tell from the CV if it's ceramics or a general craft. Not that I needed to be satisfied from a good book or a good viewing of a painting or a sculpture. And also the palliative qualities of color context, andit was all very fascinating to me. But. [Laughs.] [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: I certainly could find that for you and supplement, but I do notI. NEIL WILLIAMS: Sure, functional stuff, bowls and platters; trying to keep them interesting for myself. This is what I'm supposed to be doing." NEIL WILLIAMS: She replaced me and my ladder with Sam and all kinds of hydraulic equipment. NEIL WILLIAMS: when I wasand I saw them asalmost like roommates and artists who were sharing space and enriching each others' lives. MIJA RIEDEL: Do you think of yourself as part of an American tradition? And then we'll move onto the other. MIJA RIEDEL: Not to digress, but a quick question: when I look at your work, I'm shocked that it doesn't crack in the firing process. MIJA RIEDEL: That actually leads beautifully to this next question, which is, do you think there's a difference between artists that are trained in a university and artists that learn another way? NEIL WILLIAMS: anymore. NEIL WILLIAMS: And so I was the youngest. Andyeah, I mean, even De Kooning had Alzheimer's. It's overwhelming. I constantly check occasionally for amusement, self-amusement. These photos are dated '74. But it goes to thethere's something special about this area and producing talent and creativity. He could go off and explode and it could be pretty scary. And ultimately, that's what Violet had touched on earlier. NEIL WILLIAMS: There wassome of thebacking upsome of the good about the galleries, when something would sell through certain galleries, like Betty Asher or Rena, they would tell you who it sold to andbut Dorothy, I think at the time, Weiss was being a little insecure, so she wouldn't tell me for the longest time. And Viola was the same way. And I had a larger studio, and they said, "Do you do any workshops?" NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, some of the people who have come out of that program areit's just silly. And so. So I don't know. At certain times I question, "Oh my gosh. But I also think that the pressure to produce and the pressure to produce large monumental-scale pieces, colossal pieceswhen everyone was around her saying, "Oh my gosh. NEIL WILLIAMS: Not the work, especially like itself, but thethere's not a lot of angst anymore in making the work. No. I used to love the little Scottsdale Museum Fairthat was nice for me, made it into a vacation. I was telling him about Maria Martinez the other day. So there's a certainalso, which clay, I think, brings aboutthere's a certain naturalness, and there's a certain human quality that it's a natural conductor for. And I'd whitewash, get a basecoat, and she would go with blocks of color in and out of the kiln, sectionally. Maybe starting with the plates. I enjoy going out. You have to understand earth, fire, and water in their most extreme conditions, and that was reallyit made sense to me for some reason. %PDF-1.4
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Well, it's like, "Nobody told me. NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. You know, like, the little chicken image or some of those other images that she made eight, nine feet high. So, there's a number of stories like that in the area. Not just everyone who wanted to grab her once they saw this incredible cache of artwork in her backyard. It reads as one form. She gotit was the height of making those big men, and they were enormous. [Affirmative.] Two weeks ago, Damar Hamlin fell to the ground, seemingly lifeless, during an NFL football game. MIJA RIEDEL: And it is fascinating to see. [Affirmative.] Contact Reference Services for more information. NEIL WILLIAMS: Not designing them. NEIL WILLIAMS: I try not to do commissions. I like working hard. And they were, "Come on Viola, let's go do some," you know, "let's go do some drugs or something on this break and go back to talk" and she had a huff, "I'm going to go blow all my money on bronzes and sandwiches. I believe in creative bravery,the commercial power of creativity,keeping things simple, integrity, the importance of craft, a healthy amount of chaos, and always rememberingto be yourself. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yes, but not necessarily for publishing. MIJA RIEDEL: Did he write much about her work? MIJA RIEDEL: How extraordinary. NEIL WILLIAMS: Were there profound changes or memorable. He has the rare ability able to look at any project from a broad perspective and solve the problems that need solving, while always retaining an infectious passion for steering creative work of the highest standard. Like I said, he was older, did a lot of her reading and herwriting for her, and was the premier voice behind her of how good she was and how great her work is, and going to be. NEIL WILLIAMS: So these kinds of things came out of 1974. This site is maintained by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (ABN 093 360 108) ("R&S"). NEIL WILLIAMS: [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: There's a very heartwarming story about her, about her vulnerability, too. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. NEIL WILLIAMS: right up until the day she died. He was one of the many riders who take their worst tumble after they hang up the saddle. Why are we here? So, I think I gravitated towards vessel-making, and connected with it immediately, and it's certainly evolved to other things, NEIL WILLIAMS: but it gave me a discipline, and it gave me sense of accomplishment and self-respect, I think, that was healthy and, NEIL WILLIAMS: it made me realize that it was possible to pursue this. They're almost like not markers. [Affirmative.] MIJA RIEDEL: Did you grow up in Auburn itself? I just wanted a couple of specifics. startxref
And, her pieces were getting larger and larger and larger because, sectionally, we could handle it. NEIL WILLIAMS: She just took onshe expanded the meaning, but as far as her liking to be around and findingfamilies, so to speak, in a clay environment. NEIL WILLIAMS: I never doubted that. It was a thank-you note from Joan Mondale, who'd just visited her studio and wascouldn't believe what she saw. Great stories about Thiebaud he had, and he was just such a positive guy thatit was very impactive on my life and my interests and becomingbut I knew immediately, as soon as I started working with clay at 14 years old, what I wanted to do and what I was going to do. She was in NCECA. I think anytime you can give a student who doesn't have any connection or any experience with the arts, you can give them some small experience.
And it showed up on my birthday, and this was from 1947, and it's like "I didn't even know they were having full nudes, let alone African American nudes, in drawing classes at U.C. Milking the cows Is that correct? NEIL WILLIAMS: There are some that are out to tryjust to try and survive in the creative field like artists are. MIJA RIEDEL: Or a challenge, because it brings the work into a different perspective. MIJA RIEDEL: Actually, I wasn't getting at anxiety, I was getting at benefits, but I'd like the whole picture. One artist was talking about art in the panel; she was talking about, "Art is about art" and was being very egocentric. Like even when I do production work, or picturing other pieces I'd like to explore. This information is provided for entertainment purposes only. 0000009191 00000 n
NEIL WILLIAMS: And it was funny because she didn't have to taxidermy it or anything; it was already pre-done. Where are we going?" NEIL WILLIAMS: And, so it was immediate, but it was also reallyfascinating to me. [Laughs.] . Yeah, thank you. In other words, conceiving it as a surface for painting. Moving on to your career, was Viola encouraging about your career? When they set up a little, they're cut to draw reference to a canvas. Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I think that's also whatand the discipline was there, and I think that also what helpedin the future when we talk about Viola, why she connected with me, and why I connected with her and why she was immediately "Would you come help me and work with me? NEIL WILLIAMS: She might not want to have admitted it, you know. NEIL WILLIAMS: And yeah, she's a good partner. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, I'm sure her independence helped all that. He says, "No, I'll show you when I get back." NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. ", [END OF TRACK william14_2of3_sd_track01.]. But at the same time, I try and push it a little bit each time so that theyI mean, I'm going to obliterate the image completely but, like I said, it has to stay alive and interesting. [Affirmative.] Like I said, she was also Viola's lifeline, I know, too. National Geographic? MIJA RIEDEL: What do you see as the similarities and differences between her earlier work and her later work? I mean, Betty Asher's, Stphane Janssen's collection wasare you familiar with him at all? NEIL WILLIAMS: And I think her workdid that. She loves testing situations, and may have more to offer. Developer of the H.A.L.T. But. Barry Brand - CEO + FounderYellow Global, [unex_ce_button id="content_f9naucsin" button_text_color="#555555" button_font="bold" button_font_size="15px" button_width="auto" button_alignment="center" button_text_spacing="2px" button_bg_color="#ffffff" button_padding="15px 60px 15px 60px" button_border_width="2px" button_border_color="#5e5e5e" button_border_radius="2px" button_text_hover_color="#ffffff" button_text_spacing_hover="2px" button_bg_hover_color="#000000" button_border_hover_color="#000000" button_link="http://neilwilliams.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Neil-Williams-CV-New.pdf" button_link_type="url" button_link_target="_blank" has_container="1" in_column=""]Download CV[/ce_button], "What a great guy to bounce ideas around with. I understand now I didn't have much exposure to it, but even looking and taking art history courses at that time, it was unusual. [Affirmative.] You'll be redirected to related page soon Don't have an account? MIJA RIEDEL: And would she workyou said she'd work on multiple pieces at once, correct? That's whatit originally started out, as a straight-line structural approach, the color, being the volume, to expand or contract that form. Those grandmothers that you describedMrs. Salary in 2019. She would buy them outright. That's really important to me. NEIL WILLIAMS: Uh-huh. Not to worry. 0000114283 00000 n
And so he had discipline of throwing and formulating on clay and materials; glazes and firing wood kilns and things that I was really fascinated with when I was young, because it was a great introduction to realizing how many different hatsI mean you have to be a chemist. Throwing on the wheel can be a wonderful sensation on many levels and it's. It's not ephemeralit worked in a very. It was hard work, physically, but I knew it was special. NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean, I used toI found a note crumpled upor stepped on, on the floor of her truck. NEIL WILLIAMS: Passed away in '06, and a childhood friend and went to the local high school. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. You'll be redirected to related page soon Don't have an account? NEIL WILLIAMS: She would decide. But he gave her a glowing review on Myth Maker Art and Fantasy and he was, she saidoh she came and she was so relieved, I think. 0000007465 00000 n
Monday-Friday, excluding Federal holidays, by appointment. He had very strong opinions of where it should go, of course, but sheshe definitely was her own woman, and she was going to make what she wanted to make. And not that they're paying off,in terms of popularity or sales or any of that stuff. And then she wouldI don't know if she really wanted the responsibility of anyone else. But it should have something more than just being a painting or a sculpture. NEIL WILLIAMS: Artists always get into trouble or lose out on them unless they're special. NEIL WILLIAMS: I think it goes back to, is it a fuel for life or not? Oh, we were talking about support systems and it fits in, I think, howseems like this day and age artists don't survive without angels? MIJA RIEDEL: I thought you had said otherwise yesterday, but okay. MIJA RIEDEL: You mentioned Kandinsky, and because of the conversation we had, I can't help but wonder if you think about your work in any kind of spiritual context, or if spirituality has any effect on the work? 0000011773 00000 n
NEIL WILLIAMS: TheI know some of the first endearing works that everyone was raving about, it wasand of course sheyou saw them immediately, you would be grabbed by them, were the grandmother figures in floral dress. And she says, "I hope some of my students show up. MIJA RIEDEL: and you talked about how instrumental Rena was to Viola's career, what a difference her arrival in Viola's life seemed to make to getting her work out there. What a loss. You were born in Oakland in '59? So many great artists have considered their work studies, the variations. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I wanted to keepso the compulsion was there. You know, they can do all of the mental masturbation or mental gymnastics on that one. He was extremely difficult. And, it just seems different, and you're laboring away at a sculpture or a painting. NEIL WILLIAMS: And so shecollected a lot of ammo in that area. Well, here's a brush, do it. Rena can probably attest to that. And Charles walked in one morning and saw these doughnuts in front of her, a big old plate of them. NEIL WILLIAMS: So I think that was a goodreal healthyshe needed to be in a teaching environment too. and passed away. Just a wonderful guy though. And, of course, she'd make deals, you know, "I'll pay you so much a month whether you work or not." There's a natural, I think, instinctive connection most people have with it. Mario's retired, but theythe thing about them is they remindand that's why Jason Rhoades kept coming backthey remind everyone what it is to stay a human being in all of that. She was like one of us. But, no, I always considered, I'm proud to be an American artist, yeah, or workingor the ability to work as an artist in relative safety. MIJA RIEDEL: and then did you go directly to CCAC? And thenstarted to cut straight-line. I try not to. NEIL WILLIAMS: So logisticsI don't know, I look back. But, he gave her a really good review. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: In fact she talked about when she was young and smoking all the time, she would have to stop and smoke and stop and she realized, "Oh my god." A Professional theme for architects, construction and interior designers But, certainly the FBI and everyone else keeps records on it, but they won't release the records ofthe full records of why people disappeared, so many. This website contains horse racing systems, staking plans and many articles about Australian horse racing of interest to gamblers I don't know why. Because I had been back up here, but I would go back to help. And, like with Viola, it was color and form and the figure. NEIL WILLIAMS: It was my one skill that I was able to do, in porcelain or in stoneware that I've been able to survive with, because itworked on so many different ways. NEIL WILLIAMS: He did a littlemost of her reading for her, I'm certain. "Yes, you are." They'reyou know what we do in life to reassure ourselves as creatures of habit or creatures? Just like, "I'm in my studio and life is good." [Laughs. So Iwhere I'm trying to think about Noguchi, talking about his time element and carving away, and how itthe all-consuming and meditative. But theyI mean, be able to sit out here in the evenings and occasionally see a peregrine falcon fly by at 150 miles an hour or an eagle. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yeah, I was there when he first came to her home and studio, yeah. I mean they're. She was already ill and she was working in a wheelchair. He said he knew that he would survive going to Vietnam, he had no doubt. And Ralph Bacerra was there because he was Michael's instructor. NEIL WILLIAMS: directly. Quotes and excerpts must be cited as follows: Oral history interview with Neil Williams, 2014 June 5-6. And it would help to get her back tobecause she was soI mean, whatever they were, nuclear hormones, or whatever they were, she was so full of exuberance and energy at that time, and there was a lot happening for her. You don't get too wrapped up in what the neighbors say or think. NEIL WILLIAMS: Jason Rhoades grew up here, and was thought to be one of the more important artists of post-modern artists in the '90s and 2000s. 0000111774 00000 n
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